I rewatched the fight almost immediately after the episode and noticed that Goku made him work for it after going KKx20. belmod was stated to be inferior to beerus actually inferior to most GoDs that’s why he is known as the cunning GoDs, The statement from whis doesn’t mean there’s a mortal no god of destruction can beat, he simply says there’s a mortal who can defeat a god of Destruction, Beerus takes this until we have more concrete evidence, You can, but that does not make this scene magically disappear. Nothing really states that Jiren is above the other Gods expecially the only God that can go into Ultra Instinct at will. Plus beerus said in a earlier episode that he could "easily" destroy both versions of zamasu. Why dodge/block Goku's attacks at all? TBH, I think Beerus' ability to duplicate himself and null energy attacks are more relevant. Jiren es también mas fuerte que los dioses, o al menos que el suyo.
Belmod was telling him to hakai his attacks, not vegeta. So Jiren wins. beerus for now. How the hell do you want to turn this thread into Beerus's favor I have no idea. Man this is the last time I do thread with Beerus in it, man all this Hakai BS.... ^If we make page for Beerus\Whiss fusion then maybe~. And if you want to use the manga as an argument, I can turn around and say that he's definitely comparable to Belmod while in that form because when Beerus easily defeats MSSJB Vegeta, he tells him he could be a GoD Candidate for another universe, but not for Universe 7, implying that the Candidates ideally should be within the same level of power as the GoD's they hope to replace. Dyspo had SSG Goku on edge, but wasn't close to harming him at all.
That alone pretty much confirms that zamasu's immortality is no problem for beerus, besides the timering thing. Based on what's been shown and how its been presented I would say jiren wins due to a somewhat higher ap and durability etc. In the manga, it's shown that it can effect beings on a higher level than the user, as Goku used it on Fused Zamasu (I know, different canon, but if we really want to know, we should examine this stuff from every angle). Beerus can't Hakai those with power comparable or superior to his own, proven when Whis confirms that Beerus could not have gotten rid of Infinite Zamasu.
In DB, people with sufficient enough ki can resist existence erasure and we have several examples of power interfering with EE. Lol at Beerus wankers. Tho it may not be an easy win as 3rd UI omen goku was very close to jirens full power.
He may even have a ui form similar to omen. Also I believe Lord Bills can be sealed by sword of totsoka and his arrogance will allow it to happen. Jiren is confirmed to be stronger than Beerus and Fused Zamasu by Akira referring to him as the strongest opponent in DB history, so it all comes down to if Beerus could Hakai or seal Jiren. I think its people coming to the conclusion that jiren was at hakaishin level while suppressed, which honestly would be rediculous concidering how much jiren was holding back. Jiren should wipe the floor with Beerus until an asspull on behalf of the latter says otherwise. And like the guy above me said, we are using anime version only.
I remember Beerus saying to Champa "If you weren't my brother, I'd destroy you", but that may have been a dub line. Couldn't beerus technically seal jiren? Yet Beerus could see Super Speed Dyspo just fine. The sealing technique is probably the same. We have 11 other gods like him, and based on his previous fight with champa, we know that at least one of them can fight him on roughly equal terms. But here, you don't get resistance unless you have shown it on screen. Also, we know that most of the hax/resistance work differently in DB, but we apply the standards of other fictions in DB.
Beerus hasnt been stated beyond the rest of the hakaishins, and the manga didnt even make it seem that way after chapter 28, which made every other god look amazing as well. Ryukama wrote: Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat.
Beerus is stronger than all 12 of the Gods, and Jiren is only above Belmond in terms of raw power level. That would definitely put him on that level. Descarga Rap de goku vs jiren MP3 Aquí Gratis 2020. Of course, it being able to work on someone stronger than the user when used by a non GoD fighter does not mean it can work on someone who is equal to the GoDs in power. Full power Jiren is Jiren who fought 3rd UI Omen Goku who was stated to MAY have surpassed Beerus, unless you think Beerus absolutely stomp Jiren like little kid we should use Base Jiren here, Ah the FB is just spelling mistake thx for pointing that out. Goku got some hits and than jiren complimented Goku and caught his punch which tells me jiren probably powered up past limit breaker. We learn that Beerus can destroy/erase things when he uses it on present day Zamasu. 2.
This is ridiculous. 1 Kudos Jiren vs Beerus. Someone already showed a screen cap of it. And even while suppressed, he is still massively above GoD Toppo. Champa is the only one that made any indication of not being able to see. This proves what exactly? Super Speed Dyspo has godly speed compared to his normal form, and Zeno couldn't see him even with slow motion. Goku se había vuelto mucho más fuerte desde entonces. In fact, jiren was effortlessly repelling TWO mastered ssb level opponents, Tanked a kamehameha like if it was air hitting him, and he swatted goku aside like if he was a fly. Also Beerus gets heavily blitzed. That's the definition of a blitzstomp. Man this is the last time I do thread with Beerus in it, man all this Hakai BS.... ZERO7772 wrote: That scan is out of context and misleading. This plus the fact that characters like Golden Frieza and Gohan are explicitly faster than Base Dyspo, and how SSG and Hit were able to somewhat keep up with Base Dyspo, shows that Base Dyspo being above GoD level is inconsistent. Beerus gets dumpstered. Jiren's power was GoD level while holding back immensely. Escuchar y Descargar Música Rap de goku vs jiren MP3 para llevar en su celular donde quiera que se encuentre.
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